2025-02-11 - Jodie Edwin



ZOOM Meeting summary for Edwin Rutsch's Personal Meeting Room (02/11/2025)



Quick recap

Edwin and Jodie discussed the political bias in academic literature on empathy and conservatism, and the potential for empathy to bridge political divides. They also explored the concept of empathy in various contexts, including personal growth, understanding, and its role in leadership. Lastly, they considered the balance between active listening and task-oriented leadership, and the importance of practicality and action in their work.




Next steps


• Jodie to listen to the Thomas Gordon Parent Effectiveness Training audio book during her commute.


• Jodie to review Edwin's list of blocks to empathy on the project page.


• Edwin to go through the basic model of empathy definition in a future meeting.


• Jodie to share her practical model of empathy and map it onto the empathy circle concept in the next meeting.


• Edwin to consider ways Jodie can get involved with the board or get trained in facilitating empathy circles.


• Jodie to explore bringing empathy circles to her location.





Summary




Addressing Political Bias in Empathy


Edwin and Jodie discuss the political bias in academic literature on empathy and conservatism. Jodie shares findings that paint conservatives negatively and liberals positively, but notes this doesn't align with her personal experiences. Edwin emphasizes the importance of bringing all stakeholders together in an empathic dialogue, using tools like the empathy circle to foster understanding between different viewpoints. They agree that empathy can be a valuable approach to bridge political divides and address complex issues.




Empathy, Role-Playing, and Holistic Approach


Jodie and Edwin discussed the concept of empathy and its application in various contexts. Edwin shared his experience with Daryl Davis, who successfully befriended KKK members through deep listening and empathy. Jodie expressed interest in conducting an empirical study on the effects of the empathy circle on long-term empathy levels. They considered two separate studies: one for Jodie's experiment and another for a longitudinal study with the empathy circle. Jodie also mentioned her plan to create her own empathy scale. Edwin proposed the idea of defining empathy within the context of an empathy circle, allowing for role-playing and better understanding of empathy-related concepts. They also discussed the potential for a holistic approach to empathy, emphasizing the importance of sensing into the experiences of others and oneself. Lastly, Jodie mentioned that her academic friend, Lee Wong, would join their next meeting to provide insights from a holistic perspective.




Empathy, Humility, and Personal Growth


Jodie and Edwin discussed the concept of empathy and its role in personal growth and understanding. Edwin shared his experience with the empathy tent at a political rally and how it led to a deeper connection with others. They also discussed the fear of change as a potential barrier to empathy, with Jodie mentioning her interest in intellectual humility as a related concept. Edwin agreed that humility is an important aspect of empathy, and they both acknowledged the potential for personal growth through active listening and empathy. Jodie expressed her interest in further exploring the overlap between empathy and humility.




Balancing Listening and Task-Oriented Leadership

Jodie and Edwin discussed the balance between active listening and task-oriented leadership in their respective roles. Edwin shared how their organization, focused on building a culture of empathy, incorporates active listening and conflict resolution through empathy circles. They also discussed the importance of practicality and action in their work. Jodie expressed interest in getting involved with Edwin's organization and suggested sharing a practical model of empathy she developed. They agreed to continue refining their understanding of empathy and its application in their work.


2025-02-11 - Jodie Edwin

Transcript

https://otter.ai/u/RM5QVFlh_AXlNcNwC6-K7iHAAKs?view=transcript

Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discussed the politicization of empathy research, noting a significant bias towards liberal academics. Jodie highlighted a study showing increased empathy for out-group members among liberals but decreased empathy among conservatives exposed to violent media. Edwin emphasized the importance of empathy circles in fostering dialogue and understanding across political divides. They explored the concept of holistic empathy and the challenges of empathizing with multiple groups. Jodie proposed a longitudinal study on the effects of empathy circles, while Edwin suggested role-playing empathy blocks and roadblocks to empathy. They also discussed the potential for empathy circles to address community conflicts and promote intellectual humility.

Action Items

Outline

Empathy and Political Bias in Academic Research


Value of Convictions and Historical Context


Empathy Circle as a Mediating Framework


Challenges and Benefits of Empathy Circles


Empathy Circle in Practice


Role of Empathy in Leadership and Conflict Resolution


Empathy and Intellectual Humility


Empathy Circle as a Practical Tool


Mapping Empathy Models and Definitions